But, so as not to create a difficult atmosphere, I would simply drop the issue. Im worried when I do see things laser sharp I will really lose my mind hence the clinic option, but maybe Italy, a new hot Italian guy and a ton of pasta would be better. [Side note: the proof is in the pudding is an old proverb which related to the concept that you had to eat the dessert to know if it was good. I felt quite weak. As you say, the only way out is through. We are often so busy just surviving that we forget our own power. And twice I took him back. I speak to counselor. And I believe those that take the stance and putting all their eggs in one basket to explain away their spouses affairs by attributing the term, MLC or sex addiction, are fooling themselves. 3 years seems like a long time if I was to put myself into that kind of trajectory, it feels uncertain. Unless of course the real love of his life is money and that is about to leave bigtime! As did yoga and exercise and reading some good books. Not returning. Why do people flee from the crown, what can be advised in this case. But the last month of the A was the worst of it. Hoping for some peace for you as well. But there is a certain level of expectations, a ballpark figure, a certain range that it would cover. Oh yeah my hair fell out and the obligatory weight loss, anxiety, rapid heart beat, completely falling apart at the grocery store, the whole scene!!! It appears he has the perfect teacher his mother. Also did you maybe consider too the fact that it is long distance adds to the allure. I am laser-focused on sorting out the financial side so that at least is more stable. But that is due to you and to the gang here ???? Loaded in with a few remember when situations that came up naturally, even one arose from the owner of the restaurant who came over to chat. That family Ive been a close part of for 15 years that she will no doubt want to impress? Isnt it amazing how everything about d-day is etched in ones mind forever.sort of like its frozen in time. Thats something I have been afraid to look at deeply. I couldnt sleep for weeks after d-day. Good for you!!!! OMG SI I dont know what I would have done had I heard her name uttered in his sleep! Single DadI am happy to hear you have your faith to keep you strong through all this insanity. The joys of an affair and the fog. My H refused any counseling both during & after A until about 2 years later after Dday2. Thought I should let them know he was unwell. Def NOT who the OW is telling him who you are and trust me she is painting you the greedy cold frigid wife!!! Im certain you are being well advised by your attorneys and accountants so you have the hardest part covered, your business and your financials. a MIL or grown children. Oh DI thank you. Beautiful bride wearing a white wedding dress running away alone. To answer your questions we have been married for 15 years. I am merely asking you to use all that empathy you say you have for other people and consider the possibility that your valuable message may be getting lost amongst all the clatter. ), sell assets and well, pay him out. Not because I love to strip wall paper but because it takes no special skill set to strip wallpaper and its just dumb labor. Business would be nothing without my H. What I do is only 4 hours of work a week (i,e, nothing). Im guessing things arent as rosy for him as he hoed when he moved out. I did it twice and traveling alone is great for soul searching and putting into perspective you will be just fine without him! Hes going to be fine. I do it all. Lots more. You have to go through it, theres no way around it, and it sucks big time. He did relent a bit on the day of moving out his personal effects. The CS has to want it otherwise the A continued with the same OW or the CS eventually finds a new OW. No way he wanted to do that. Glad to see you back. We still have a lot to sort out, but Im sure after H has visited OW and sealed the deal over the holidays, he will come back fully charged with testosterone, ego-stroked and spoiling for a fight. Satori Stop throwing your pearls to swine. I sincerely hope you are able to get some sleep and realize that you will get through this and it will be on your own timeline and you are allowed to grieve for as long as you need to. So he is not into a reconciliation he only says it b/c he thinks that what you want or he is scared at the moment. Do the best you can to take care of you. I have had my BIL who lives in the same country call her and let her know the man she slept with is married. Lol there I was in my pajamas with a coat over it. Im not in a great place right now but thank you for all your thoughtulness. In trying to rationalize his A my husband told me about a week before he asked for a D that a lot of guys would want to date me b/c I still look young and am in great shape. Now that I am in recovery, I am trying to use this experience to open me and for growth just as you say TH. Lets just say for now between my sisters giving me 4 xanax and 2 ambien and I still didnt sleep matter of fact got in my car and drove, there may or may not have been some B & E and destruction of property!!! As Germaine Greer once said, the fear of freedom is strong within us. He begged me for a chance to explain. And think an A is the answer. If a traditional affair rips the proverbial carpet out from under a betrayed spouse, marital abandonment rips out the entire house and the foundation itself from a betrayed spouse. Hes doing great. Cite cash flow or logistics or damage to business to buy him out all at once. Im looking forward to him finding out how hard it really is when you dont have a loving W in the corner doing everything for you to run your life and your business etc. Get all you finances ready. I actually didnt find this site or any other until about 2 years after DDay maybe more. I also had to move into my parents new house and sleep in the guest room. Anyway that was kinda the beginning of having real talks but there was a whole lot more to go thru. And I was there pouring my heart out to her hysterically crying worried about what was going on for my then supposedly sick and clearly fucked up H (we know why now). Cant take it back. They reconciled but divorced 4 years later after they had a child. So so difficult. And not seeing his kids every day b/c he had to live away from us due to his cheating would have been the worst of it. Im having a glass of wine!! In our FOO males are the only people who are allowed to hold power, women must know their place and simply breed and bring in money so we can do what we want. Re Christmas and the holidays. Pray. [7], On March 15, 2008, Wilbanks's ex-fianc, John Mason, married another woman, Shelley Martin, in a quiet ceremony at his parents' home in Duluth, Georgia. If you werent going through this grief I would worry about you. You can always choose to R at any point if you think he really means it. He was hoping the MC would talk sense into me and facilitate an amicable divorce. Im not sure how to find one that would be good for my situation. Whats it look like?? Making me want him, beg etc, punishment. In the minds of most people it was just a breakup and they happen all the time, get over it etc. For example, in the Hollywood movie Runaway Bride, the main character, Maggie, ran away from under the aisle right out of the church. She went on her second beach trip, and never returned. Hi Satori I know it hurts and I am very sorry. Ive got a long road ahead still but I see my H improving by the month, by the week and even by the day in his relationship with me. I think I must have cried almost everyday for over three years. It is different from a MLC affair since the wayward spouse in the runaway spouse syndrome scenario had checked out a long time ago, had been finished with the marriage a long time ago, and often already has a home to move into with the other person. Personal issues which will accordingly be handed over entirely to H to instigate and follow through with IC (for H) / MC (for us both) / whatever (holiday / finding new place to live) R will only be on the table once the docs are signed and those things are in place. Oh for even a tiny bit of your resolve TryingHard!! I did tell him to go be with her if thats what he really wanted but instead he said he wanted our M but did nothing to focus on it choosing to mourn the end of the A ((until it resumed a few weeks later)). Im turning to Him now. Ill finish later. They drift slowly away from shore, the fog gets thicker as they drift farther away, and then they have no idea which way the shore is and how to get back. I appreciate your understanding. In March of 2017, I said to her: Angela, I love you, but Im not in love with you right now. Question: do you think if money is the critical factor for CS, its a red flag and one should not reconcile? 4. Ive seen guys go in and empty out the house when the wives were gone. The more I think about it, the more I feel OW was an Exit A to cement his leaving but may not be the actual and ultimate replacement of me, however that does not mean there wont be a replacement coming soon. Right now your H is in denial. I have a form of Tourettes now where I literally go fucking cheaters!! Sooo glad you made it out (a) in one piece and (b) without felony charges. JTKI know its hard particularly at our age and youve been with this person foreverrrrr. You are very wise when you say my confused H will drown everyone. I know, I know. H: Can we talk about this later?. I laughed in his face. incompatibility and growing apart. Thank God I had my own credit cards that gave me over 70k of cash. He is deflectingeffectively gave no concessions as to Hs cheating. They do need their space and their freedom to get through this, but at the same time they need to treat us with respect and we need to stand up and make sure we get it. You can do so much better. UGH. She was too far gone. I was tested and challenged in so many ways. And his family is buying into his self created drama instead if standing up to him and telling him what reality is. First off, I do not write words so that they may be just glossed over in a hurried fashion. Doesnt matter the reason. you fix your picker. And two days later her mask fell off and he saw everything she was doing as her boyfriend/ex step son called me and him. As I said before, I know you got this. Tried to be a better parent. So I dont know who is pilfering from EAJ. I was able to get through it with no sleep for 3 months and PTSD and anxiety thru the roof. Try yoga sign up for a karate class. I was dressed up and ready to go when the text came in. You have suffered a trauma. In other words Id have let the expert lawyer speak for me. What I love and appreciate about you (and this is also true of everyone here) is that you see very clearly where the fault lies (with the cheater) and while you are very mindful of the treatment you received yet you are still in your M. Still being loving towards / loyal to your partner. I feel your pain!!! My adult children know.but they love both of us and it wasnt up to them to fix what was going on. At first I was begging and pleading at least for a conversation as to what the hell just happened here. But very good that he has volunteered to come over and fix something. Maybe instead of a big move maybe a phone call hey do you want to meet and talk. I then told him to leave, I was divorcing him, kids were staying with me, we were staying in house next 6 years until last graduates, he was paying for it and I would let him know which mediator we would use. I was so busy and distracted I let things slide that I should not have and didnt pick my battles as wisely I possibly could have. Right or wrong people think acting like Switzerland is the way to go with this information. Does it mean your marriage is over? Sometimes people just stink ya know what I mean? Once the affair fog gets blown out to sea, maybe he will see clearly what he was about to throw away. Block her calls or texts if you wish. Thats my greatest fear. A good person? Having the support of a few close friends or family can make a world of difference. He denied she was his Plan B. I asked for and he said he would show me proof that he had ended it formally with her. I agree if h is not willing to talk about reconciling then the best thing is NC. My oldest son (39 years at the time) actually confronted my husband after he found out about the EA. Separating from a business agreement is harder and more costly. And that damage is permanent. hahahaha. That is something you need to be prepared for. Even now he admits how stupid that idea was. H said he ended the PA/EA and he cancelled the 3 week trip that he secretly booked using our travel agent. It almost made me laugh when I realised the script was playing out as the script that you said. Meanwhile Ive been at my desk every day without fail. If this scares him just wait until he starts getting legal notices! It doesnt work to enable them. The financial loss that H totally underestimated, once explained to him, completely vaporised his escape plan H didnt know what he didnt know. In another case, I took control of a situation he had been repeatedly trying to control himself. Beautiful bride wearing a white wedding dress running away alone in nature outdoor with leaving a bouquet of flowers and shoes on the street. I hope things work out for you. Eventually I went in the house and they put me to bed. TheFirstWife, Thank you for the explanation of how it dovetailed for you with H / therapist / R But clearly he doesnt think he has any problems. I have been an amazing wife. I hope my head will be clearer and less chaotic in the morning. We know what most people will choose given the choice. Theres no users manual for this affair crap. Get away. Its only been 4 weeks so hes in a real conundrum right now. Matter of fact I suggest dint do it with them. But please do not cheat. I feel this is the only safe place to vent. The meds helped and I was only on them short term. TryingHard If you feel more comfortable emailing me privately to discuss without judgments, such as BSA tossed out, Doug has my permission to give you my private email address. But it was a light touch email. Click here if you want to listen to the audio recording of the interview with Vikki Stark on Runaway Spouses. But I think again it was just syaing it as he thought he should. ", "Wilbanks gets 2 years' probation, plus community service" - CNN article, June 3, 2005, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Runaway_bride_case&oldid=1126737934. Having brought things to a head, intuitively it feels like slowing things down again is necessary to catch our breath. Satori LOL. Yep stupid desperate people do that. He speaks to my heart. ? That was me. Theres always a cost and a lesson. I dont know what else you can do exceot remain NC to protect yourself. We purchased a new home together just seven minutes from work, which was a very big deal because of the commutes and real estate prices in the area. But you stepped up to the plate again and again. Seeing the crazy in my eyes. No accountability. But I found the heck out of infidelity books on Amazon! I went to sleep dreading the next day and the commute ahead of me. Both were quite close to each other's families. Legally he cant walk away from business, (layer advice) but it is hard to put yourself into two headspaces, professionally and personally, on a daily basis. I saw a girlfriend of mine at the local dog park today. Love that line about him being a timid forest creature. I know you are in the fight if your life and I keep hoping he signs the financial papers so at least you can move forward on that issue. People just drift apart. I really hear you when you say it is such an act of trust to lie down and sleep beside someone. Be prepared for the worst case scenario. What you describe is such a devastating insight of how betrayal permeates into the quietest of moments and just SLAYS. His name was Bo". Nearly two years after Wilbanks ran away, the incident was used by the Albuquerque Police Department as a means of attracting new recruits to the police force. We all need to be here to support one another even if someone communicates in a way that we dont. I was thinking the exact same thing you said too: why is my H so miserable, unhappy and under pressure etc? ! Oh boy. I was hardcore with him. But now I have my own activities and social life separate from him. It can help you understand her mentality. You see, my grandfather, who actually was a tremendously kind and generous individual, had cut ties with his own mother. I finally got all the truth on July 31, 2011 DDay 2 on a long car trip out to CO that we took together and were gone 2 weeks. Theres a Robert Frost poem called The Road Not Taken that I have always loved. My sense of time is a bit warped at the moment though! The quest for perfection and the ideal wedding often interfere with the relationship of the bride and groom as well as their friends and family . But to cause that to happen to you and your livelihood well IMO that is wrong and he is a coward. Thats when I left for Colarado. The reasons can be very different. But sometimes people see dead people too . I dont know if her ex husband is still in the picture, if he still loves her, or if he has moved on? I might do it with that and some repayments as TFW suggested. You know what my dear , this is such a sticky place to be. Cue more of the ritual humiliation of the Betrayed which Im just discovering is the true legacy of life after a Cheater. Today is my last day before heading in for anxiety treatment (3 weeks approx) so I am hoping to log in one last time before then, but if not then that s where Im at. Ugh I feel for you. After d-day he did stop all contact, but a few time he whispered her name in his sleep..I was destroyed. his behavior in one day went from I love you to I want a D To I love you and want to be married to you. If we can only parse out the symptoms we can come up with an answer. I dont want to hope now as the sooner I get used to this feeling the sooner it will pass. In fact, it may be that they have not even had a physical affair with the back-up. A few people, mostly women, explain their behavior by saying that they did not want to cancel the wedding, as the invitations had already been sent, and they did not want to embarrass their partner and family. Why then, such a sad sausage? He acted completely out of character all of a sudden. And then possible about-face / asking for forgiveness. Example. After her husband told her he was leaving, he turned into a person she did not recognize. Should he stay should he divorce?? I do believe if the proper research was done (and absolutely NONE has been done), there would be certain tell tale signs in the brain associated with MLC. I was someone else back then. Being compassionate does not work. Saw him again today for 2 hours (much calmer lol!!) Hows your business set up? Now you know. Ive got that anxious crap down pat. I was determined no matter what happened in my marriage I would come out the other side better for it. To which he yelled do you see her you stupid bitch?. I had all the financial info on that. He knows he will have to admit what hes done and thats not going to be pretty. Clearly Im up to speed now LOL. Then it continued: Hey, you know theyre all the same and you know youre doing better on your own so dont buy in. Ive showed anger and contempt for them but have never directed swear words directly to them let alone a BS. You will get through this. I am moving towards not hoping and certainly not actively pursuing a future with someone who could do that to me. I woke up this morning and thought, thats it, Im out. My great, great grandmother was a woman of French Creole/mulatto descent from Louisiana. 8. It just wasnt normal. It feels like he is destroying everything as it seems easier to him to destroy it than to do the necessary work to save it. Those whom I have actually been communicating with have been incredible. Then Ill be business emails only and NC going forward. And after a month I got a lot of lies, empty promises, manipulation for about another 3 months. You will find someone else. So when we experience it, its freaking scary as hell ( lol I realllly wanted to say the f word there but didnt, aaaarrrggghhh). Satori So go ahead and scare her anyway you can with your lawyer. Gotta love the cheaters playbook!! They thought I went to sleep. Well that was a long 16 days. Until I had to tell them we were having problems just to warn them of a possible D. My younger child even adked if there was another woman involved. My casual meet up went exactly as you predicted. Just cant believe that people who stood there while we said our vows would not at least urge their son to suck it up and do the right thing by me. Ill throw an F bomb for you any time. Other peoples sensibilities rather than my ACTUAL PAIN. And even though I was furious I emotionally needed him to get through the holidays and death in the family (in same 3 week span). And LOL this was before I even knew what NC was or of its power. Remember Gods Justice is not the same as mans. ): I want X and I want Y too and Im having that etc!! My H is full of self pity as we have all noted here, but its funny ( just as you were saying as per the Queen of Sheba etc) they should be happy now right? I mean I went driving around in my pajamas, with a mallet in my car while on that stuff. But in any case, its now not even an option. The power is with you. We throw them a rope but they dont see it. However you are also correct that his actions need to match his words. Thank you Shifting Impressions. H: I dont know what to do. rescuer / caretaker and yes, fixer / denial and PTSD. And not everyone is capable of such a daily feat. TryingHard I wont be able to do or see anyone for a while as Im going in to get this anxiety treated. TFW talked about her faith and God. The harsh truth for me is, he left under a false pretext giving me no notice and no explanation but regardless he didnt give me a backward glance. I posted below, and will post again on my return. My fair, rationally minded husband was gone. You need to show me that you want this (the M) above anything. It would be good to try and relax like we used to before this insanity began. they cant reconcile his actions with who they thought he was. Not that they didnt help but this site kept me going. Other times I wonder if I was projecting all my own values onto him. H finally has his ideal life! I am so glad you are in a better place. But I hope I make it for the sheer exhaustion of it. She threw him out. The path of destruction as you say. JMO. Whatever happened to honesty? Old being the operative word. Thats GOOD. 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